Log from #Classroom on Saturday, January 19, 2013 at 7PM EST: “Perception”, hosted by TashRikil:
[19:01] <TashRikil> good evening, and welcome to Perception. good to have you.
[19:01] <Forge> i am here
[19:01] <Forge> but i am goign to grab a sub
[19:01] * DragonAtma nods
[19:01] <Forge> from subway across the street
[19:01] <TashRikil> sure, go for it.
[19:02] <TashRikil> i hope you’re all relatively comfortable, and in a more or less distraction free environment?
[19:02] * DragonAtma nods
[19:03] <TashRikil> alright. i’m going to make an effort to teach you the bare bones basics. something that i teach to anyone i know who is just starting out.
[19:03] <DragonAtma> Hey.
[19:03] * DragonAtma nods
[19:04] <Wyrd> k
[19:04] <TashRikil> hiya.
[19:05] <TashRikil> the official names for what i’ll be teaching you is meditation, self scanning, and shielding. but for anyone genuinely new, it’s not nearly as hard as it sounds. these are just simple things to get you going in psionics.
[19:05] * DragonAtma waves
[19:05] <TashRikil> good to see you.
[19:05] <frankie> 🙂
[19:05] <frankie> Didnt know this was gonig on
[19:06] <TashRikil> well, i hope i do a good job teaching you. usually this is better with a personal touch. is there anyone genuinely new to psionics here tonight?
[19:06] <frankie> is there going to be a transcript of this on the forum?
[19:07] <DragonAtma> frankie: of coruse
[19:07] <Akradai> yes frankie
[19:07] <TashRikil> apparently so. good stuff. maybe this will be useful to someone in the future as well
[19:07] <frankie> Useful to me :/
[19:08] <TashRikil> i want to start with some good news. psionics is not as mystical or as hard as it sounds
[19:08] <TashRikil> you already have what you need to begin sensing. most people can learn any of it with enough practice.
[19:08] <frankie> I havent learned sensing yeyt
[19:09] <DragonAtma> Hey.
[19:09] <TashRikil> welcome. i think i’ve stalled long enough for the 5 minutes late people to arrive. *chuckles*
[19:09] <BWitch> `~`
[19:09] <Akradai> hehe
[19:09] <DragonAtma> lol
[19:09] <frankie> Do I have to know sensing to do this?
[19:09] * Wyrd sigh
[19:10] <TashRikil> human nature, completely expected. so let’s get rolling. no, frankie, you dont need to know anything ahead of time.
[19:10] <TashRikil> is everyone in a relatively peaceful and distraction free environment?
[19:10] <frankie> Yep
[19:10] * Wyrd is ADD that is at all times NO.
[19:11] <TashRikil> that could be a problem for my methods, Wyrd. dont be disappointed if this doesnt work. we’ll have to find another way to get you in the door.
[19:11] <frankie> Well im glad theres going to be logs if I get disconnected
[19:12] <TashRikil> the first thing we should do is meditate. and that’s pretty simple. the goal is to think nothing. so i’d like you all to relax. clear your minds, and turn down the television, or the other distractions, and other chat windows
[19:14] <TashRikil> let me know when you’re ready. i need feedback to know how you’re doing.
[19:14] * Akradai nods
[19:14] * DragonAtma nods
[19:16] <TashRikil> good stuff. let me know when you’re ready, you guys.
[19:17] <TashRikil> things like arguments going on in other rooms and such need to be silenced and shelved for a few minutes. *cough* it’s harder to do this when your mind is busy.
[19:18] * Akradai agrees
[19:18] <Akradai> you have my attention
[19:18] <DragonAtma> same
[19:18] <Auegamma> You can always “silence” people in this channel so that no arguing or cutting in the middle of the sentence doesn’t happen.
[19:18] <BWitch> Clear of mind and focus in purpose.
[19:19] <TashRikil> odds are fair your brain is thinking many things. rather than suppress them, let the thoughts have their say and refuse to act on them for a short time. some folks it helps to imagine a blank sheet of paper. others it helps to focus on your breathing, in and out.
[19:20] <TashRikil> Auegamma: my point is simply that if you are discussing something, anything with someone else you will need to put it on hold for a bit. few people and no newbies can meditate in the middle of a traffic jam.
[19:21] <TashRikil> i’ll wait a bit. i appreciate those who have told me they are ready. if someone’s having a bit of trouble, by all means tell me so i can help.
[19:22] * DragonAtma is ready
[19:23] <TashRikil> mmkay. i think we have everyone we’re going to get for the moment. i dont want anyone feeling left behind, so by all means talk to me after class.
[19:25] <TashRikil> congratulations. this feeling of inner calm that you have right now is basic meditation. it’s defined as a lack of emotion… more personal experience tends to reflect emotions that still come, but say their peace and leave quickly
[19:25] * Akradai nods
[19:26] <TashRikil> more complicated forms allow you to focus on a specific task at hand, increasing your sensitivity and general perception. often you will feel yourself performing these tasks with greater efficiency. but we’ll leave that be for now. this is the basic thing.
[19:27] <TashRikil> in psionic terms, the mind is a little bit like a CD player/radio.
[19:28] <TashRikil> percieving other things is possible, recieving from the outside, like listening to the radio. but if you have a CD stuffed in there, your own thoughts and feelings running at loud volume, the self always wins that shouting contest, so outside perception is drowned out.
[19:29] <TashRikil> the more you repeat this, and it really is this simple… the better you will get at it.
[19:30] <TashRikil> now… self scanning is a little bit of a misnomer.
[19:31] <TashRikil> essentially what i’ll be showing you now is a quick way to look at your own energy and see if something is wrong, or if everything is flowing properly.
[19:32] <TashRikil> tiny mental parasites, little energy saps, are amazingly common
[19:33] <TashRikil> if you’ve been in a fight, as well, and been injured, you will be able to determine that, and seek help from a healer.
[19:34] <TashRikil> a lot of folks meditating for awhile will comment on how they can feel the blood flow in themselves… or the cycle of air in the room. this is a good place to start
[19:34] * DragonAtma nods
[19:35] * BWitch listens.
[19:36] <TashRikil> relaxing and listening to your own blood flow, or breathing, without any outside stimuli is a good way to tap into your astral or spiritual self. you can probably feel the energy flowing through you right now with your blood. it’s completely normal.
[19:37] * Akradai nods
[19:38] <TashRikil> it’s a bit like opening your eyes, though your physical eyes are not used. simply watch the energy flow through you, just like your blood flows through your physical body.
[19:38] <TashRikil> is everyone able to do this?
[19:38] * DragonAtma can feel it
[19:38] <BWitch> Yes.
[19:38] <Akradai> mhm
[19:39] <TashRikil> good.
[19:39] <TashRikil> is anyone having trouble? speak up, so we can help you. there’s nothing to be ashamed of. sometimes a different approach is needed.
[19:40] <TashRikil> everyone’s mind is different, and i am generalizing right now. i doubt this will work for everyone.
[19:40] <Zajman> hello there , i see the classes started already :/
[19:41] <TashRikil> mmhm
[19:41] <TashRikil> can you meditate?
[19:41] <BWitch> Finding the best way in which your mind ticks is part of attempting many methods.
[19:42] <Zajman> if your asking me , i can
[19:42] <TashRikil> yes it is. and this is intensely personal, what i am trying to teach. fortunately it’s also simple, so nature is on my side.
[19:42] <TashRikil> i am. if you can get into a meditative state, you will be right where everyone else is right now.
[19:43] <Zajman> ok ty for filling me in
[19:43] * Forge returns late
[19:44] <TashRikil> wb. if you want to read up, and get into a meditative state, we can wait a few minutes. there’s no rush.
[19:46] * Forge is already there
[19:46] * Forge also uses the void mind method
[19:47] <Zajman> so we re meditating now for a bit?to try it out?
[19:47] <TashRikil> yes
[19:48] <Zajman> i was meditating before i logged in here , i thought i still have like 20 minutes till the lessons :/
[19:48] <Zajman> next time i will need to check double with my time
[19:48] <TashRikil> well that’s good news, then. though i’m sorry if the timing of the class was a little confusing
[19:49] <Zajman> my foult
[19:49] <DragonAtma> people are used to class being tuesday at 8 EST, that’s all. *shrugs*
[19:49] <Forge> i cant do those hours anymore unfortunately
[19:49] <TashRikil> i think it best if i recap a little. we’re trying to find the way most natural for each of your to sense the flow of energy in your body and mind
[19:50] <TashRikil> *each of you, excuse me
[19:50] <TashRikil> [19:34] <@TashRikil> a lot of folks meditating for awhile will comment on how they can feel the blood flow in themselves… or the cycle of air in the room. this is a good place to start
[19:50] <TashRikil> [19:36] <@TashRikil> relaxing and listening to your own blood flow, or breathing, without any outside stimuli is a good way to tap into your astral or spiritual self. you can probably feel the energy flowing through you right now with your blood. it’s completely normal.
[19:51] <Zajman> i m trying to do that from about 3 -4 days now >.< used tactile visualizations and other stuff i found on the net
[19:51] <TashRikil> [19:37] <@TashRikil> it’s a bit like opening your eyes, though your physical eyes are not used. simply watch the energy flow through you, just like your blood flows through your physical body.
[19:51] <TashRikil> [19:38] <@TashRikil> is everyone able to do this?
[19:51] <Forge> yes
[19:52] <TashRikil> good.
[19:52] <Zajman> i not eble to recognize my energy
[19:53] <TashRikil> okay. well the good news is that it’s all around you.
[19:54] <TashRikil> my method focuses on defining the self first. perhaps you are having a little trouble telling yourself from everything else around you?
[19:55] <Zajman> i m able to see myself in my mind clearly
[19:55] <Zajman> tried already meditating for hours
[19:55] <TashRikil> so you are able to self visualize, good.
[19:56] <Zajman> i used the metodh developed by robert bruce for the last 2 days , without fucess
[19:56] <TashRikil> for some folks, it is in the breath. can you feel the air come into your lungs, take something from it, and exhale it back out?
[19:56] <Zajman> the tactile visualization
[19:57] <Zajman> let me try
[19:57] <TashRikil> okay. well… previous failures need to be put out of mind now, as well as worries that you might not succeed this time. you can do this.
[19:57] <Zajman> nope
[19:58] <TashRikil> hmm.
[19:58] <TashRikil> how are you feeling right now?
[19:58] <Zajman> altho i have a question
[19:59] <Zajman> i m calm, balanced
[19:59] <TashRikil> ok. please ask.
[19:59] <Zajman> well is it possible i can see energy ?
[19:59] <TashRikil> you mean physically see it?
[19:59] <Zajman> yes :/
[20:00] <TashRikil> ahh, that must be what you are going for with these techniques. am i right?
[20:01] <Zajman> i m trying to feel it with my body , i m not sure if what i see is not an effect of long sessions with computer , and an lcd screen :/
[20:01] * TashRikil nods.
[20:01] <TashRikil> i think i see what’s going on. okay, an honest answer. it is possible that you can physically see the energy, but it’s also unlikely. especially not on your first successful session.
[20:02] <TashRikil> your focus on needing to see is actually getting in the way here. you’re focusing on physical vision, when that is not the sense you need to be using at all.
[20:02] <Zajman> i m able to see it from couple years , and i need to open my third eye , when i feel a pressure between my eyes , thats when , and only when it happens
[20:03] <TashRikil> it does help some people to channel the thoughts into something like opening a third eye. if that is what you know works for you, then you should focus your efforts into that.
[20:05] <TashRikil> and you need to look at yourself, at your own energy right now. if it helps, i will project a mirror for you to do so.
[20:05] <Zajman> in the past i had an uncontrolled stuff that looked like what im experiencing now with trying to feel energy , and its like , even today i saw that stuff, but not all the time tho, it really looked like my feeling of energy developed into that , but i m like you very sceptic about it
[20:06] <TashRikil> the point of this session is so that nobody has to suffer that sort of uncontrolled adventure. it can be very painful until you learn what you’re doing, and i like to protect the folks new to the practice.
[20:07] <Zajman> btw anothe rquestion
[20:07] <TashRikil> if you’ve been scarred by past experiences it may take some healing to help you, and allow you to try this again. safer this time.
[20:07] <TashRikil> by all means.
[20:09] <Zajman> nah i always found it beautiful to watch those diamond spots , or even whole weaves of diamond spots all around me in the air , pretty amuzing to me
[20:09] <Zajman> but the question
[20:09] <Zajman> dou you have a cleas sight when you watch an objets or do you see some kind of noise all over the place ? like in a broken tv?
[20:09] <Zajman> clean*
[20:10] * DragonAtma always sees a bit of multicolor noise, no matter how solid the object’s color is.
[20:10] <Zajman> when you watch an object* like wall or something , in normal life
[20:10] <DragonAtma> mmhmm
[20:10] <TashRikil> it’s a pretty clean sight for me
[20:11] <TashRikil> you’re going to need some help after class, i can tell. and i’ll give it to you. but for right now, we need to help folks move forward with the lesson.
[20:11] <Zajman> roger
[20:11] <TashRikil> i appreciate your patience everyone.
[20:12] <DragonAtma> n/p
[20:12] <Zajman> sorry for that :/
[20:12] <TashRikil> now. you’ve all had some time to feel the energy flows inside you.
[20:12] <TashRikil> dont be sorry. this is personal, and you’ll need something a bit outside the standard. i want to help you with this.
[20:13] <Zajman> yeah , but everyone is waiting to get to the next stuff
[20:13] <Zajman> 🙂
[20:13] <TashRikil> has anyone noticed any energy obstructions? perhaps the energy is pooling in a place that simply doesnt feel right. perhaps you’re feeling something not self inside?
[20:14] <TashRikil> maybe you feel it a little light, being sucked away in places?
[20:14] <Auegamma> All the time and in every direction.
[20:16] <TashRikil> you’re a special case. not going to deal with that issue at the moment. anyone else?
[20:16] * DragonAtma felt a small obstruction, and fixed it.
[20:16] <TashRikil> okay very good. the more advanced folks can do that
[20:16] <DragonAtma> (and yes, I realize that most people should not be self-fixing without backup…)
[20:17] <TashRikil> believe it or not, i’m not about to lecture you on that. 😛 you know enough to take care of yourself.
[20:17] <DragonAtma> true, true!
[20:18] <DragonAtma> I’m just reminding the newer people.
[20:18] <TashRikil> odds are low, but cumulatively if we have a lot of newbs self scanning, someone’s going to have a parasite or something.
[20:18] <DragonAtma> mmhmm
[20:18] <TashRikil> anyone? or have you all fallen asleep?
[20:19] <DragonAtma> if they are, they definitely succeeded at being relaxed XD
[20:19] <TashRikil> yes… i’ve literally had that happen to someone i was teaching before. a much needed nap, but the lesson needed to be rescheduled. 😛
[20:20] <Zajman> if i can feel anything , in my fingertips and maybe in the palm sometimes , i feel completly something different in my legs when trying to do the root visualization
[20:20] * TashRikil nods
[20:21] <TashRikil> you’ve already explained to me that you got injured, and how it happened. after class i think we’re going to want to scan you more in depth and heal you.
[20:21] <DragonAtma> mmhmm
[20:21] <TashRikil> just relax the best you can in the meantime.
[20:21] <TashRikil> well, is everyone still here?
[20:22] * DragonAtma is here.
[20:22] <TashRikil> and i appreciate that.
[20:24] <TashRikil> it does seem we may have lost some people…
[20:24] <DragonAtma> oh dear
[20:25] <Aerys> Im still reading but i never was an active participant
[20:25] <TashRikil> good to hear from you.
[20:25] <TashRikil> BWitch? are you there?
[20:26] <TashRikil> this is actually a fairly common problem. people are so busy that they stop for a few minutes and they pass out. or they get bored when someone is getting individual attention for a bit.
[20:27] <Aerys> Perhaps you should take this break to help Zajman
[20:28] <TashRikil> normally i do this thing one on one. so anyone that needs individual attention is going to get it. if it’s too complex to deal with in the course of the class, i wait until after.
[20:28] <Auegamma> Or me?
[20:29] <TashRikil> well… provided everyone succeeded at this we only really have one more thing to do. the shielding. and it is the most important of all of the things i wanted to teach tonight.
[20:31] <TashRikil> we’ve actually done a very basic sort of buddhist mindfulness exercise. surprising for some that dont already know this, i’m sure.
[20:31] * Akradai is here
[20:31] <TashRikil> we’ve quieted ourselves, examined ourselves, and now the idea is to put something in place to separate ourselves from the rest of the environment.
[20:32] <TashRikil> because we have self scanned, self examined if you would, we can see the line where we exist and where other things exist.
[20:33] <TashRikil> mentally, all you have to do now is put a wall there. for some, a star trek forcefield is a powerful visual to put between yourself and the rest of the world. for others, a brick wall. anything that makes you feel safe, and separate. i’ve seen thoughts of favorite stuffed animals used to great effect.
[20:33] <Aerys> hello SonOfFlynn
[20:35] <TashRikil> this is a shield, and there are at least 6 different types of shield per person. so this is also intensely personal, and very whatever works. but it’s also very necessary, and will keep some of the things that can happen to you from hurting you, and turn away parasites, etc.
[20:36] <TashRikil> the essence of this is the safer you feel, the safer you ARE.
[20:37] * Akradai nods
[20:37] * DragonAtma nods as well
[20:37] <Akradai> In a way, that sounds as though it touches on Will and the use of Will.
[20:37] <TashRikil> it kind of is, but i strip things down so people can use them.
[20:37] * Akradai nods
[20:38] <TashRikil> less big headings and filecabinets, more practical, simple ways of pulling it out of a hat in a pinch.
[20:39] <TashRikil> you should never forget to put your shield on when you meditate, or for those that astral travel, do that. the reason is simple. trouble is rare, but if you run into it you will need protection.
[20:40] <TashRikil> meditation helps you focus your mind and feelings on keeping you safe. the clearer you are able to think, the better everything psionic you do will work
[20:41] <TashRikil> taking care of your physical body is also, surprising to some people, important. because it affects your mind and judgement significantly.
[20:42] * DragonAtma nods
[20:42] <TashRikil> i’m not suggesting an ascetic lifestyle, though a lot of people whom choose to get serious about this do choose that for themselves, so they are the best they can possibly be.
[20:45] <TashRikil> now, is there any feedback before i tend to Auegamma’s and Zajman’s specific needs? i do like to hear how i’m doing, and if this has helped or not. i want to genuinely welcome you to the psionic community and take care of your needs.
[20:45] <DragonAtma> I think you did a good job
[20:45] * DragonAtma still feels surprisingly calm.
[20:46] <Akradai> mhmm
[20:46] <TashRikil> i appreciate that… but i judge how good a job i did by how many newbs have had success using my methods.
[20:46] <Aerys> From what I read it seemed pretty good and I can tell you later if it worked for me when I actually try it
[20:46] <DragonAtma> understadnable
[20:47] <TashRikil> *nods* this tends to work better when we’re all on the same track in real time.
[20:48] <TashRikil> but far be it from me to deny it an avenue. if someone benefits from trying it later on their own unsupervised so much the better.
[20:48] <TashRikil> simple repetition is a good way to practice this. until you get bored of it. and then again until you barely need to think about it.
[20:49] <TashRikil> there are ways to test how well you’re doing that the more advanced will know right away what i am talking about. but yeah… practice, then get yourself to someone who can supervise you and make sure everything is working right.
[20:49] * DragonAtma nods
[20:51] <Auegamma> So the class is officially closed?
[20:51] <TashRikil> personal supervision and shield testing is very important early on, so that folks dont end up on wild, painful adventures.
[20:51] <TashRikil> yes, class is over. i’d ring a bell if i had one. 😛
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